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PostSubject: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:20 pm

I know our Dai won't be at Worlds but I started this thread so that we can talk about some of the other skates that we like.
Here is the official Entry List. Yuzu is the only Gold Medal winner who will be attending.

http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent00051515.htm
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:21 pm

^ Interesting. Most of "missing" skaters are doing shows, including in Japan, right after WC, like Chan or Voir. For doing exactly the same thing Plushenko was suspended right after Vancouver- he didn't skate at Worlds but skated in a show. The same ISU regulations that suspended Plu was the reason why Daisuke had to skate at WTT- in order to skate at Kobe charity gala without suspension&losing eligibility status as an amature skater.
And now what? ISU is going to apply their own regulations equally to all skaters? †lol!
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:00 am

I think that Chan and V/M are retiring even though they have said they have not ruled out
coming back but very vague about when. Personally I don't think we will see them in competition again.

I don't know about other federations but Russia has listed Adelina and V/T as
substitutes on the Worlds Entry List which I believe protects them from
not attending and doing shows instead, something that they
did not do for Plushenko.

Also after Chan made his comments to the media last year about WTT
being a silly competition, a waste of his time and how he was forced to go.
I am surprised that he has the nerve to skate in Japan.

I guess it is all about the $$$$$$$$$.
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:23 pm

Colored Time Schedule for Practice: http://www.isuresults.com/events/WC2...meSchedule.pdf

Practice Groups/Music Rotation: http://www.isuresults.com/events/WC1...otationAll.pdf
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:41 pm

Thank you Shyla!

Watching Worlds won't be the same..too sad and "empty"

Anyway, I hope to experience once again the magic of figure skating, the best among all sports.

I have many to cheer and to root for...Akiko, Caro, Cappellini/Lanotte just to name some.

Let's enjoy the competition!!


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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:41 pm

Pattina: †I love that you're attempting to muster up enthusiasm for the Worlds! †I wish I could follow your lead.

Shyla: I agree with your comments about Patrick. †He is not as revered in his own country as people may think. †A lot of Canadians are disappointed by his many rude remarks and wish he would just skate without opening his mouth to the media. †He needs a few lessons in humility from a certain skater, we all love and adore, who always keeps it classy.

Patrick has alluded to retiring but who knows. †He does have talent but it's hard to cheer on someone who is greatly lacking in modesty and public speaking skills.
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:52 am

Hi:
Shyla, thank you for opening up the new thread.
Yes, we should talk about the world even though Dai is not there.

Here's the latest talk show futering Yuzu, Kozu and Machida.
http://youtu.be/MgMxr_StprY

Yuzu, " Yes, I am under a pressure , a lot of pressure."
Honda says that Hanyu now has an aura of the king.
Hanyu added " My goal is to skate with all the power that i have till the end. I would like to perform at my highest level at this world championship."

There is the possibility of Japanese sweep too, the commentary said.
They also said that the practice ticket is about $40. It is expensive but there were about 1700 people there. When Hanyu appeared a lot of girls screamed loudly.

OH my god, our fellow rascals, we have serious competition here. †Shocked††Shocked
I will start my voice training so that we rascals will be the loudest when Dai skates next time.†cheers††flower††
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:27 pm

Thank you Genki. I have read too that Yuzu fans were cheering loudly his every move at
his practice. I have not heard much about Taka or Machida practices.

Here is Mao's practice today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKvsxHR5AGI
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:01 pm

I wish, I could enjoy this competition...

But I am a bad person, still hurt and bitter. When I read this:

Genki wrote:
Honda says that Hanyu now has an aura of the king.

I can only think "And you, Brutus?".
So in a way I'm glad Dai doesn't have to take part in this Yuzuru's coronation. They made him abdicate, forced him to give a blessing to the new king, but thank goodness, he doesn't have to be present when they'll be putting the crown on Yuzu's head.

I know, I'm so jealous of Yuzuru.†Embarassed† Don't mind me.

I hope Dai's frame of mind is already in much better state than mine...
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:49 pm

Hi Everyone. †Thanks for all the updates.

Genki: †I donít think you need practice with the cheers. †You have it mastered.

Ilica: †You are not a bad person. †I think we are all feeling this way.

However, I donít think there will really be a coronation because it seems that Dai has too many loyal fans in Japan, and world wide, judging from the number of messages he received on various websites right after Sochi. †I know that I checked out 2 sites but didnít send a message because they were both in Japanese so just imagine how many others there were, like me, who wanted to send messages but couldnít because of the language barrier. †When I visited those sites there were more messages for Dai than any other skater. †

Although I admire Yuzuruís talent his new fans have jumped on the bandwagon because of a medal rather than skating skills and artistry which is what skating is all about, isnít it? †And no one will ever take that away from Dai because he is unmatchable.

This week will be extremely hard on Dai as he watches the Worlds because he would normally be competing (and winning) but I hope he knows how greatly missed he will be by the international viewing audience and that so many are waiting for his return.
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:53 pm

My take on Honda saying that "Yuzu now has the aura of the King" is that now that
Dai has pretty much said he would be retiring Honda is looking for a job and Honda
would like to to keep his options open. Just a thought.

Yuzu is Olympic Champion and that is quite an accomplishment for this young man and
right know he is a star in Japan it goes hand in hand with the Gold Medal.

But for me there will never be anyone like Dai, he is simply the best.
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:12 am

ilica, please, you are not at all a bad person. Let me hug you! Anyone reacts in a personal way. We all are sad about Dai missing Worlds due to an evil injury. We all are worried and concerned about his mental and physical health.....and we all have to deal with his retirement. Dai has not yet stated it for sure, I know, but sooner or later.....†SadSadSadSad

I don't care about Yuzu being now praised as "king". It's quite natural: older skaters retire and younger ones take their places. Yuzu has his own talent, different from Dai of course, but I don't feel like despising him for this. I despise media, instead.

As for Takeshi sensei....I think that he couldn't say something different. Media expect this from him, like in the past they expected words of praise for Daisuke. What should he say? Maybe he spoke also about Dai-chan, but tv cut his words...we don't know. †

Daisuke cannot be "replaced", media say what they want. His unique ability to create masterpieces of art on ice won't be diminished or tarnished by what's going on now with Yuzu.

FS world knows it; we know it. And IMO Daisuke knows it, too. And Dai is strong, despite what he says and his being always so harsh with himself.

I wish him to enjoy watching competition on tv: he has dear friends competiting and he is and will always be their Captain, nothing else matters.

Apologize for long and useless post. I have so many feelings that have to come out but language is a great limit...
Thanks to you all, guys, for sharing your feelings here.

I can only say that I love him so much and I miss him, now and every day more.
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:47 am

ilica wrote:
I know, I'm so jealous of Yuzuru. Don't mind me.
It is ok, iliac. We Dai fans are more ore less feel a bit disappointed that Dai's beautiful skating and artistic quality has not been valued fairlyl for these recent years.

Remember that he lost to Yuzu in Nationals in 2012 after blowing everybody away by skating that unbelievable "Pagaliatti"? Yuzu is a new wonder boy that Japanese Fed decided to sell and they have been politicking toward it consistently in hope of winning gold medal in Sochi. And they have succeeded it.

That is the reason why that unfortunately there is a lot of animosity developing between Dai's fan and Hanyu fans in Japan.

dancingirl wrote:
Daisuke cannot be "replaced", media say what they want. His unique ability to create masterpieces of art on ice won't be diminished or tarnished by what's going on now with Yuzu.
Exactly. But media in collaboration with skating feds is trying so hard to create a new star for new age. If they did not push Hanyu down the throat of fans like this, I might be looking forward to the progress that Hanyu makes. He is a great talent anyways. But now, I just can not support him nor root for him. So sad this sports is becoming just politics.

Anyway, here's Shizuka's view on ladies. They have repeated that heart warming episode between akko and Dai†cheers

http://youtu.be/W4Cm7pyPZkk

Suzuka talked to Mao's coach and confirmed that Mao is in the wonderful condition. In the practice, she skated near perfect short program†rendeer

Goo Ma---oooooo.
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:06 am

I love you,ilica.

Frankly, I am even happy that they are not able to using Daisuke for their new milking cow project after Sochi.
They must remeber this:Daisuke and his fans are not their marionette.
I don't want to waste my money any more for this questionable sport and organization.
Go to hell!!!!!!!!!†Laughing


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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:49 am

Genki: †I cannot take credit for these words that were wisely written by Pattina:
Daisuke cannot be "replaced", media say what they want. His unique ability to create masterpieces of art on ice won't be diminished or tarnished by what's going on now with Yuzu.

I think itís been harder on all of you that live in Japan if you have to wake up to news every day about Yuzuru. †I know itís not his fault, in any way, but itís frustrating to read and hear about. †So, for once, I am glad that Iím not in your country to witness the debacle firsthand and feel badly that you're subjected to this.

Dai hasnít officially announced his retirement but for now I guess ďsomeoneĒ has to take his place in his absence. †I am still holding onto hope that he will eventually return. †Until then, we are going to have to try to ignore all the Yuzu love because WE all know who will always be the best in the world.

Hang in there, everyone, youíve been down this path before with Dai and heíll come back stronger.
It's not over, until it's over.
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:41 am

Thank you all!†I love you† It is a blessing to have this place and such wonderful friends!†I love you††I love you
Thank you for your posts, you have expressed my concerns, thoughts, complicated feelings etc, much better than I could...


Anyway WC just have started.
I just imagined Dai watching it on a TV - with his beer, his poor legs comfortably resting on a pillow - and I feel much better.

Go Mao, Akiko, Kana, Caro, Taka, Tatsuki, Yuzu... and everybody's second favorite!†cheers
The first one doesn't have to be nervous this time!†Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:33 pm

Just seen Taka and Tatsuki! †

For now (last Group is warming up now) Tatsuki first and Taka second †cheerscheers

Taka did very good! His footwork amazing as usual.

Great Tatsuki! His East of Eden was wonderful. 98.51 score.


Team Japan so good!!! 3 men in last group for Free. Maybe they will not achieve a total sweep, but two medals are more or less secured!

Glad for good performances of Javier Fernandez and Tomas Verner and Jeremy Abott.
I love the way Jeremy skates, he is so smooth, lines and movements are clean and graceful †I love youI love youI love you
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:19 pm

Great skate from Tatsuki! Congratulations!!†sunny† †sunny

I haven't watch other men's skate yet!


(Actually I watched Dai-chan's 2013 NHK SP right after I watched Tatsuki's SP on Youtube. Hehehehe... No one can replace Dai0-chan's skate!)
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:58 pm

I watched Tatsuki, Javier and Tomas skate so far. Tatuski was brilliant and so was
Tomas and Javier. British commenators thought that Tatuski was going to break
the world record but he did not. I am going to watch Kozuka soon I heard he did well too.

Surprising results with Yuzu in 3rd. Tatuski has a 7 point lead on Yuzu he could well
win the World Title. Only 2+ points separate Tatsuki and Javier.

Free skate will be intense for sure.

Missing Dai..........

I have not watched Jeremy yet but I did look at his score and his PC's were to low.
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:59 pm

Shyla wrote:
I have not watched Jeremy yet but I did look at his score and his PC's were to low.
Hi Shyla, I just watched Jeremy's SP. It was a beautiful skate! A piece of art!! For me, maybe the best performance of the night. †

The world where Jeremy got lower PCS and SS than some young guys is simply wrong..... No

I miss Dai-chan so much..................†SadSad
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:15 pm

Shyla, Jeremy fall on quad, but other technical elements were OK and his skate was as elegant and graceful as ever. Jeremy is great performer and in my personal opinion his PCS should be the highest, together with Tatsuki, whose East of Eden gave me shivers.

miyu wrote:
(Actually I watched Dai-chan's 2013 NHK SP right after I watched Tatsuki's SP on Youtube. Hehehehe... No one can replace Dai0-chan's skate!)

I watched Dai's Mambo soon after Max Aaron's performance. I need to do it, to cancel the horror movie I had just seen.

Max uses the same music Dai did in his first part of his legendary Mambo.

Nothing in Max's program reminds you of mambo: Max is just a skater jumping to and fro with some music in the background. Indeed he tried to do some "mambo moves"....with terrible outcomes. †affraid
No-one can match The One and The Only Mambo Dancer †cheers††cheers††cheers




I need some Dai's pics, even if old. I miss him so much!!!! †Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:18 pm

Just watched Machida.Yeah!

http://youtu.be/zaYfPjBgj5c

What a great program. No wonder he grew up idolizing Daisuke all the time.
Such a beauty.
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:45 pm

Genki wrote:
Just watched Machida.Yeah!

http://youtu.be/zaYfPjBgj5c

What a great program. No wonder he grew up idolizing Daisuke all the time.
Such a beauty.

Tatsuki was awesome tonight!! I was amazed by his menatl strength, as well. Yet! his SS isn't the same as †the superior skaters', like Dai-chan, Patrick and Jeremy, even though I realized his SS has so much improved in this season.

Without Dai-chan and Patrick (I mean SS for Patrick), Jeremy's SS and PCS should have been the highest. It's just wrong... And I can't encourage Dai-chan to come back to such a world of fault..............†No
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:10 pm

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Without Dai-chan and Patrick (I mean SS for Patrick), Jeremy's SS and PCS should have been the highest. It's just wrong... And I can't encourage Dai-chan to come back to such a world of fault..............

oh, miyu, the skating world has been wrong for a long time. Dai's score was always put down, like nobody cares his beauty nor his artistry. †Suspect

But I want him back!! Daichan, Please. Till that time, I will pray for his fantastic recovery.†alien
Let's enjoy the world together for now.†Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP-SAITAMA JAPAN   Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:19 am

I thought Tatsuki did a wonderful job and I'm so happy he's in first place. †I felt bad for Yuzuru when he fell because he really is just a young kid and has so much pressure put on him. †I wasn't able to see Takahiko because CBC only showed some of the men.

I found this article and used google translate. †If the translation is correct I believe attendance is down because of Dai's withdrawal. The arena capacity is 18,400 but there are only 16,913 people in attendance. †I hope the Japanese Skating Federation and other media outlets take note. †I must admit I felt rather smug when I read this.

http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2014/03/26/kiji/K20140326007853290.html
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