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PostSubject: Four Continents 2009   Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:02 pm

4CC will take place next week in Vancouver.
... so we can see the Olympic icerink!

This is the 4CC site:
http://www.fourcontinents2009.com/

SCHEDULE
Wednesday February 4, 2009
7:30 am: Practice
1:00 pm: Dance Compulsory
3:15 pm: Pairs Short
5:30 pm: Opening Ceremony on Ice
6:15 pm: Ladies' Short

Thursday February 5, 2009
7:00 am: Practice
11:00 am: Dance Original
1:35 pm: Pairs Free (Final)
3:45 pm: Victory Ceremony - Pairs
4:30 pm: Men Short

Friday February 6, 2009
Session 1
8:00 am: Practice
1:45 pm: Dance Free (Final)
4:35 pm: Victory Ceremony - Dance
Session 2
6:00 pm: Ladies' Free (Final)
9:50 pm: Victory Ceremony - Ladies

Saturday February 7, 2009
7:15 am: Practice
10:45 am: Men Free (Final)
2:45 pm: Victory Ceremony Men

Sunday February 8, 2009
12:00 pm: Gala Exhibition
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:13 am

Does anyone know if I can watch this online somewhere (not restricted to US/Canada only...)? I probably won't be watching it live, since it's a huge time difference. It'll be in the middle of the night here in Sweden.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:18 am

alekzu wrote:
Does anyone know if I can watch this online somewhere (not restricted to US/Canada only...)? I probably won't be watching it live, since it's a huge time difference. It'll be in the middle of the night here in Sweden.

I think, you'll be able to watch it here:
http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/index.shtml
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:25 pm

Thank you for the information, glorydave! flower
It will start very soon. Surprised

I'm curious who will win in men's competition. bounce Chan, Abbott, Kozuka and Oda were very successful in GP games. And three of them are the reigning national champs.
I think Jeremy is the strongest currently becasue Patrick often has some problems in his 3As and Takahiko and Nobu are a bit less artistry than Jeremy. What you think of it, everyone?
Anyway they are so close, so a clean performance will be important.(I don't think Takahiko will stop his quad challenge, though.)

Of course we mustn't miss Mao & Yu-na even though 4CC is not the most important game for them.
I'm bit concerned about Mao's condition, who wasn't in good shape at Japanese Nationals. I think it was just due to fatigue. Tarasova won't go to Canada with her this time. Go Mao! I love you
BTW, why doesn't she replace 3F-3Lo with 3F-3T in SP? Neutral

I'm rooting for Akiko Suzuki especially this time. I love you She came in 4th overall at Japanese Nationals after she skated so wonderfully in FP. I was moved by the performance. She said she wanted to show her EX "Libertango" in Canada and definitely it will be thrilling! cheers

Akiko Suzuki EX
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=CqIpiZmojaE
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:13 am

The CD just finished. I must say the Finnstep is quite "busy". There are many places where a team can get tripped up. I only saw the last 3 teams (Crone/Poirier, Virtue/Moir, and Samuelson/Bates) and I thought they all looked kind of stiff (it's probably on account of this being a new dance).

Right now, Virtue/Moir are ahead of Davis/White by a little more than a point. C/P are in third and S/B are in fourth.

The pairs short starts in a little more than half an hour and the ladies short is about 3 and a half hours from now.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:12 pm

Ladies SP:
1 KIM Yu-Na KOR 72.24 42.20 30.04 7.60 7.10 7.65 7.55 7.65 0.00 #34
2 ROCHETTE Joannie CAN 66.90 37.90 29.00 7.30 7.00 7.25 7.35 7.35 0.00 #36
3 PHANEUF Cynthia CAN 60.98 34.70 26.28 6.65 6.15 6.80 6.60 6.65 0.00 #29
4 SUGURI Fumie JPN 60.18 33.70 26.48 6.80 6.30 6.70 6.70 6.60 0.00 #31
5 ZHANG Caroline USA 58.16 32.40 25.76 6.50 6.25 6.35 6.55 6.55 0.00 #25
6 ASADA Mao JPN 57.86 29.10 28.76 7.40 6.85 7.20 7.25 7.25 0.00 #33
7 CZISNY Alissa USA 55.62 30.10 26.52 6.75 6.30 6.55 6.75 6.80 1.00 #28
8 FLATT Rachael USA 55.44 30.00 25.44 6.45 6.15 6.35 6.50 6.35 0.00 #26
9 SUZUKI Akiko JPN 55.40 30.88 24.52 6.20 5.80 6.25 6.20 6.20 0.00 #30
10 LACOSTE Amelie CAN 49.78 29.62 21.16 5.40 5.05 5.35 5.30 5.35 1.00 #2

Yu-na was just breathtaking!! I love you I love you So gorgeous! I love you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceo20JnHa30

Besides Yu-na, I enjoyed Rachael and Joannie's performances but Rachael's score was a bit disappointing. She had a few mistakes.

I'm concerned about Mao.... Neutral She might not have pushed herself into top shape this time in order to come into L.A. Worlds in the best shape. Oh, I don't know... Neutral
she looked so nervous when she stepped onto the ice. I just hope she can skate with more relaxed state of mind the day after tomorrow. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:37 pm

Thank you for ladies results and for the link, miyu! Very Happy

Yu-na was fantastic! I always love her elegant skating!
And she had a great score! Shocked Maybe it's a new record?!?!

Poor Mao! She had some problems with jumps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEgEClO9TE0

miyu wrote:
I just hope she can skate with more relaxed state of mind the day after tomorrow.
I hope it, too.

COMPULSORY DANCE - FINNSTEP
1 VIRTUE Tessa / MOIR Scott CAN 36.40 18.42 17.98 7.30 7.00 7.10 7.40 0.00 #11
2 DAVIS Meryl / WHITE Charlie USA 35.23 18.28 16.95 6.95 6.50 6.85 6.85 0.00 #7
3 CRONE Vanessa / POIRIER Paul CAN 32.43 16.98 15.45 6.35 6.15 6.10 6.05 0.00 #10
4 SAMUELSON Emily / BATES Evan USA 31.41 16.22 15.19 6.40 5.75 6.05 6.10 0.00 #12
5 WEAVER Kaitlyn / POJE Andrew CAN 30.62 16.08 14.54 5.90 5.55 5.80 6.10 0.00 #8
6 NAVARRO Kimberly / BOMMENTRE Brent USA 30.59 15.82 14.77 6.10 5.75 5.85 5.90 0.00 #9
7 HUANG Xintong / ZHENG Xun CHN 27.56 15.50 12.06 4.85 4.55 5.05 4.95 0.00 #5
8 YU Xiaoyang / WANG Chen CHN 24.65 13.72 10.93 4.50 4.00 4.50 4.60 0.00 #1
9 WANG Jiayue / GAO Chongbo CHN 23.31 12.84 10.47 4.30 3.95 4.30 4.25 0.00 #3
10 OBRIEN Danielle / MERRIMAN Gregory AUS 19.70 11.22 8.48 3.60 3.20 3.40 3.35 0.00 #6
11 BOROUNOV Maria / BOROUNOV Evgeni AUS 17.51 9.78 7.73 3.25 2.75 3.20 3.25 0.00 #4

PAIRS SP
1 PANG Qing / TONG Jian CHN 65.60 36.36 29.24 7.50 7.05 7.40 7.25 7.35 0.00 #10
2 DUBE Jessica / DAVISON Bryce CAN 64.36 37.80 27.56 7.00 6.50 6.95 6.95 7.05 1.00 #6
3 ZHANG Dan / ZHANG Hao CHN 63.20 34.96 28.24 7.35 6.75 7.15 7.05 7.00 0.00 #8
4 DUHAMEL Meagan / BUNTIN Craig CAN 62.08 35.12 26.96 6.85 6.40 6.95 6.70 6.80 0.00 #11
5 INOUE Rena / BALDWIN John USA 56.78 31.66 25.12 6.45 6.05 6.25 6.30 6.35 0.00 #9
6 BRODEUR Mylene / MATTATALL John CAN 55.16 32.96 22.20 5.80 5.25 5.60 5.60 5.50 0.00 #1
7 McLAUGHLIN Keauna / BRUBAKER Rockne USA 54.16 29.32 25.84 6.60 6.20 6.40 6.50 6.60 1.00 #7
8 DENNEY Caydee / BARRETT Jeremy USA 53.60 32.04 21.56 5.60 5.10 5.45 5.40 5.40 0.00 #2
9 DONG Huibo / WU Yiming CHN 52.40 31.28 21.12 5.75 5.05 5.25 5.25 5.10 0.00 #4
10 SUNYOTO-YANG A / SULINDRO-YANG D TPE 43.38 25.82 18.56 4.90 4.40 4.70 4.70 4.50 1.00 #3
11 AGANINA Marina / ZOBNIN Dmitri UZB 36.88 21.04 16.84 4.25 4.00 4.25 4.35 4.20 1.00 #5

I'm happy for Dubé/Davison! I usually love them more than Zhang/Zhang... Now I'm looking for the vids on youtube...
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:06 am

Yu-Na's score is a new record, glorydave. The men will be starting shortly. The big contenders skate in the last two groups.

Pairs finished some time ago and I'm so happy that Pang and Tong won and that they scored so high (almost 130). Dube and Davison were the only other team to score over 120 in the free. The Zhangs only managed about 111. Looking at this, I think Savchenko and Szolkowy will have their work cut out for them to defend their title.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:33 pm

MEN SP:
1 CHAN Patrick CAN 88.90 50.30 38.60 7.75 7.45 7.90 7.70 7.80 0.00 #21
2 LYSACEK Evan USA 81.65 44.30 37.35 7.55 7.20 7.65 7.40 7.55 0.00 #25
3 KOZUKA Takahiko JPN 76.61 42.76 33.85 6.95 6.55 7.00 6.60 6.75 0.00 #19
4 ABBOTT Jeremy USA 75.67 40.72 35.95 7.25 7.10 7.05 7.25 7.30 1.00 #20
5 MROZ Brandon USA 75.05 43.60 31.45 6.40 6.00 6.60 6.20 6.25 0.00 #23
6 ODA Nobunari JPN 75.04 39.84 35.20 7.40 6.75 7.10 6.90 7.05 0.00 #26
7 CHIPEUR Vaughn CAN 68.00 38.10 30.90 6.20 5.85 6.25 6.20 6.40 1.00 #24
8 WU Jialiang CHN 67.75 38.90 28.85 6.00 5.60 5.85 5.70 5.70 0.00 #22
9 TEN Jeremy CAN 66.60 37.90 29.70 6.00 5.75 6.05 5.95 5.95 1.00 #17
10 TEN Denis KAZ 61.32 33.92 27.40 5.70 5.15 5.55 5.50 5.50 0.00 #14
11 NANRI Yasuharu JPN 59.44 31.24 29.20 6.15 5.65 5.75 5.85 5.80 1.00 #18
12 LI Chengjiang CHN 59.22 31.92 28.30 6.15 5.30 5.75 5.55 5.55 1.00 #15
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Congratulations to Patrick Chan! Very Happy
He had a great score! This is the second highest score in men SP after Plushenko. It's also higher than Daisuke's score last year at 4CC (88,57)... even if the points for jumps are different, now... Chan did triple Axel, triple flip-triple toe combination and triple Lutz. He had level 4 for the spins and for the straight line footwork. Well done! cheers
Also Lysacek and Kozuka did a good job, even if Kozuka had some problems to land his 3A.
Abbot is in fourth palce and Oda in sixth (he had a problem with combination and did 3Lz-2T).
I really hope Oda can skate well in his FP and be on the podium.
I'd like to see Chan, Kozuka and Oda with a medal... Rolling Eyes
Now I'm going to looking for the vids.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:05 pm

Chan SP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXyuUVF2hQ

Kozuka SP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do_To0OCq-c

Lysacek SP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufMakTWWck

Abbot SP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiO_dmCn6_Q

Oda SP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vv7TiNC0jM

Mroz SP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAyuJK0jiqE
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:53 pm

LADIES RESULTS:
1 KIM Yu-Na KOR 189.07 1 3
2 ROCHETTE Joannie CAN 183.91 2 2
3 ASADA Mao JPN 176.52 6 1
4 ZHANG Caroline USA 171.22 5 4
5 PHANEUF Cynthia CAN 169.41 3 5
6 SUGURI Fumie JPN 167.74 4 6
7 FLATT Rachael USA 162.83 8 7
8 SUZUKI Akiko JPN 160.36 9 8
9 CZISNY Alissa USA 159.81 7 9
10 LACOSTE Amelie CAN 146.18 10 10
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Mao won th FP so she could be on the podium. SP was only a bad day. This makes me hope that we can still see Mao and Yu-na fight for the gold at Worlds.

DANCE RESULTS:
1 DAVIS Meryl / WHITE Charlie USA 192.39 2 2 1
2 VIRTUE Tessa / MOIR Scott CAN 191.81 1 1 2
3 SAMUELSON Emily / BATES Evan USA 180.79 4 3 3
4 CRONE Vanessa / POIRIER Paul CAN 176.82 3 4 4
5 WEAVER Kaitlyn / POJE Andrew CAN 168.76 5 5 5
6 NAVARRO Kimberly / BOMMENTRE Brent USA 151.82 6 6 6
7 HUANG Xintong / ZHENG Xun CHN 142.30 7 7 8
8 YU Xiaoyang / WANG Chen CHN 137.90 8 8 7
9 WANG Jiayue / GAO Chongbo CHN 132.53 9 9 9
10 OBRIEN Danielle / MERRIMAN Gregory AUS 112.93 10 10 10
11 BOROUNOV Maria / BOROUNOV Evgeni AUS 101.35 11 11 11

Great work for Davis/White! I'm very surprised for this result, but happy for them!
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:02 pm

Thank you so much for all of the updates, glorydave! flower

Men FP:
1 CHAN Patrick CAN 160.29 80.19 80.10 7.85 7.80 8.15 8.05 8.20 0.00 #22
2 LYSACEK Evan USA 155.50 80.80 74.70 7.50 7.05 7.65 7.55 7.60 0.00 #19
3 ODA Nobunari JPN 145.22 75.62 70.60 7.45 6.60 7.20 6.95 7.10 1.00 #24
4 KOZUKA Takahiko JPN 145.15 75.55 70.60 7.25 6.90 7.15 6.95 7.05 1.00 #21
5 CHIPEUR Vaughn CAN 144.81 80.71 64.10 6.45 6.10 6.80 6.25 6.45 0.00 #15
6 ABBOTT Jeremy USA 141.27 69.27 73.00 7.35 7.10 7.25 7.35 7.45 1.00 #23
7 TEN Jeremy CAN 140.67 74.17 66.50 6.55 6.35 6.90 6.65 6.80 0.00 #14
8 TEN Denis KAZ 123.50 64.10 59.40 6.15 5.60 6.10 5.80 6.05 0.00 #13
9 MROZ Brandon USA 121.73 59.63 63.10 6.60 6.00 6.40 6.25 6.30 1.00 #20
10 LI Chengjiang CHN 119.72 58.92 60.80 6.50 5.75 6.20 5.95 6.00 0.00 #16

Men Final Result:
1 CHAN Patrick CAN 249.19 1 1
2 LYSACEK Evan USA 237.15 2 2
3 KOZUKA Takahiko JPN 221.76 3 4
4 ODA Nobunari JPN 220.26 6 3
5 ABBOTT Jeremy USA 216.94 4 6
6 CHIPEUR Vaughn CAN 212.81 7 5
7 TEN Jeremy CAN 207.27 9 7
8 MROZ Brandon USA 196.78 5 9
9 TEN Denis KAZ 184.82 10 8
10 WU Jialiang CHN 182.92 8 11

Congratulations to all the medalists!! cheers cheers


I haven't seen Patrick's FP yet and his SP was really really wonderful. And more, I always enjoy his skating very much. Even though, the score 160 with only one 3A is a bit questionable to me. Rolling Eyes Anyway I don't have any objection about the final placement. Very Happy

I wonder Takahiko needs a sort of a more "showy" program?? If so, it's disappointing. No I think his noble, graceful and humble performance with a great skating skill is a distinguished character of him.
(OTOH, Dai-chan and Patrick is a bit similar to each other, I think...)

Regarding to Mao, there was a news that she injured her right knee in the middle of January so she couldn't practice enough afterwards.

I hope every skaters here at 4CC can go into Worlds in their best shape. Way to go!! cheers cheers


And I miss Dai-chan so much again..... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
GO DAI-CHAN!! cheers cheers


Takahiko Kozuka FP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w41CvheyQYI
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:31 pm

Thank you miyu! Very Happy

miyu wrote:
Even though, the score 160 with only one 3A is a bit questionable to me. Anyway I don't have any objection about the final placement.

I think Patrick scores (both for SP and FP) are a bit high, too. I don't think there're 12 points of difference between Patrick and Takahiko SP Suspect ... BTW I'm happy for Patrick's gold and I think he really deserves it! I love you
Even if I don't like Lysacek's programs so much this year, I'm glad for his come back!
I hoped Nobunari could be on the podium... but he did some mistakes also in the FP... Oda and Kozuka did the same mistakes: fall on 4T and on the landing of the second 3A...
I watched both their programs and I have to say that I prefer Kozuka's one... I found Nobunari's programs a bit boring...
BTW I wonder if they really need to put a 4T in their programs Rolling Eyes

Nobunari Oda FP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkumUbpP754

I hope Nobunari and Takahiko can skate in their best conditions at Worlds! They have to gain three spot for next year! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:13 pm

The difference between a medal and fourth place for Nobunari was definitely the quad attempt. If it wasn't downgraded to a triple, he would have gotten bronze I think.

miyu wrote:
I wonder Takahiko needs a sort of a more "showy" program?? If so, it's disappointing. No I think his noble, graceful and humble performance with a great skating skill is a distinguished character of him.

I too am very fond of the simplicity of Takahiko's expression. He's a very understated skater which is nice and it adds diversity to the field. I've become quite enamored with his skating this year. I thought he would have scored a little more.

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And I miss Dai-chan so much again..... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Me too! Crying or Very sad With the values for the quad and 3A now, he could have set another record. I thought that Patrick might have broken Dai's record for long program for a second but with only one 3A and no quad, I should have known it wasn't going to happen (unless he gets 90 or 100 for PCS).
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:05 pm

glorydave wrote:
Oda and Kozuka did the same mistakes: fall on 4T
swandie wrote:
The difference between a medal and fourth place for Nobunari was definitely the quad attempt. If it wasn't downgraded to a triple, he would have gotten bronze I think.
Should they let their quad attempts go or not? It will become a big issue for Japanese team at L.A. Worlds. Rolling Eyes
Actually I have a feeling that Takahiko will give another try.

swandie wrote:
He's a very understated skater which is nice and it adds diversity to the field.
That's it! Diversity! cheers

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unless he gets 90 or 100 for PCS
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:26 am

Personally, I don't think either Takahiko or Nobunari need the quad to do well. I think they can both place really well with a quadless program. Nobunari has successfully landed a few in competition I think but Takahiko is 0 for 4 in international competitions.

I wonder if Daisuke will change his ambitions (3 quads per competition) after seeing how this season has played out. Or will it make him want to do 3 quads even more?
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:55 am

swandie wrote:
I don't think either Takahiko or Nobunari need the quad to do well. I think they can both place really well with a quadless program.
It's a really difficult issue. Neutral
First of all Japanese people are sort of jump fanatics. tongue
And second, I think the ultimate goal of both of Taka and Nobu is to win at Olympics and they think they needs quads to win. Skaters often say there is a big difference between landing quads in practice and landing them in a program at a competition. IMO that's why they kept trying quads in competitions so far even though they knew they rarely landed it.
OTOH, Worlds is different from other competitions. Because the number of spots for Vancouver Olympics will be determined by the placements of the skaters.... Forgetting about quads and being clean might be the best strategy to get 3 spots for Japan. But at the same time I hope they can do what they want to do at Worlds. Difficult.... Suspect

How about US. team? What do you think of Jeremy and Evan's quads? Question Maybe it's the same. To win over Brian who has powerful jumps and Patrick who has ability to get quite high PCS, don't they need quads?? Rolling Eyes (Especially Evan. silent )

BTW I'd like to see Jeremy's quad again. I liked his last years's SP and FP very much. I love you They were well-balanced programs with difficult jumps and nice choreo. Personally this year's programs looked a bit busy to me though I think his FP is one of the most difficult programs.


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I wonder if Daisuke will change his ambitions (3 quads per competition) after seeing how this season has played out. Or will it make him want to do 3 quads even more?
It will depend on his condition and ability when he comes back. If he is in such a great shape, I bet he will try 3 quads.
It's sad to say though, we have to be prepared to see Dai-chan who is different from what he used to be......
I will cry to death for just one quad from him.

GO DAI-CHAN!! cheers cheers


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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:55 pm

miyu wrote:

swandie wrote:
I wonder if Daisuke will change his ambitions (3 quads per competition) after seeing how this season has played out. Or will it make him want to do 3 quads even more?
It will depend on his condition and ability when he comes back. If he is in such a great shape, I bet he will try 3 quads.
It's sad to say though, we have to be prepared to see Dai-chan who is different from what he used to be......
I will cry to death for just one quad from him.

You're right miyu.
The most important thing is that Daisuke could come back and we can see his wonderfull skating again. And yes, I will cry when I see one jump from him... no matter what jump...
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:24 am

miyu wrote:

How about US. team? What do you think of Jeremy and Evan's quads? Question Maybe it's the same. To win over Brian who has powerful jumps and Patrick who has ability to get quite high PCS, don't they need quads?? Rolling Eyes (Especially Evan. silent )

I don't think Jeremy needs the quad as much as Evan. Patrick gets very high +GOEs for his jumps so that's another way he racks up points. If you noticed during the Grand Prix, Evan's PCS went down when he took the quad out. So I think it's all but necessary for Evan. Jeremy, on the other hand could get by without it. I think though, everyone will be trying to do it for the Olympic year. Patrick has already said that he will put the quad in next season.

Jeremy does have a decent quad. When he was doing it, in my opinion, it was more consistent than Evan's.


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It will depend on his condition and ability when he comes back. If he is in such a great shape, I bet he will try 3 quads.
It's sad to say though, we have to be prepared to see Dai-chan who is different from what he used to be......
I will cry to death for just one quad from him.

You have a point. I think he'll know not to overdo it. One quad would be very nice from him. I'll just be happy to see him back on the ice no matter what.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:28 am

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I think he'll know not to overdo it. One quad would be very nice from him. I'll just be happy to see him back on the ice no matter what.
I second that.
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Nobunari has successfully landed a few in competition
Nope, he hasn't, not once, not a clean one, IIRC. It's either with a fall / step out, or UR.
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I think but Takahiko is 0 for 4 in international competitions.
In 4CC Kozuka's quad got ratified (even with a fall), and Oda's - not. While I think it should be other way around, I'm not a tech controller.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:11 pm

maybe Ida's quad was not completed (so not a quad) but kozuka did it but with a fall...
DO you know is Daichan has start training ? even slowly?
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:28 am

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Nope, he hasn't, not once, not a clean one, IIRC. It's either with a fall / step out, or UR.

I probably should have said that he has fully rotated one in competition then. And I had thought Takahiko's quad at 4CC was downgraded for some reason.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:07 pm

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If you noticed during the Grand Prix, Evan's PCS went down when he took the quad out.
Interesting. Evan showed us very gutsy good FP at 4CC. Very Happy

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I probably should have said that he has fully rotated one in competition then. And I had thought Takahiko's quad at 4CC was downgraded for some reason.
Nobu fully rotated 4T but stepped out at NHK. (I don't know how he did at Nebelhorn Trophy and Karl Shafer) At JNC both of them got DGs and fell on their quads.

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DO you know is Daichan has start training ? even slowly?
There hasn't been any news about it so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:52 pm

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Nobu fully rotated 4T but stepped out at NHK. (I don't know how he did at Nebelhorn Trophy and Karl Shafer)

Western Sectionals 2008
4T fell out

Nebelhorn-Trophy 2008
no quad attempt

Karl Schäfer Memorial 2008
4T fall

Nobunari won all 3 competitions though.

It's great both Nobunari and Takahiko keep trying. I hope they arrive at Worlds well prepared. The only thing I worry about is how they are going to deal with the pressure. From what I’ve seen so far, they are rather nervous types.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents 2009   Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:47 pm

Thank you, hsuhs. Very Happy

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The only thing I worry about is how they are going to deal with the pressure. From what I’ve seen so far, they are rather nervous types.
Yes......... pale However Taka is consistant this year. I mean he's never collapsed hugely. OTOH, I'm afraid Nobu loses his confidence......

I hope they can show their best performances at Worlds and enjoy it.
Of course I hope all the skaters who go to Worlds the same. cheers
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