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PostSubject: Re: New scores for season 2008/2009   Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:27 pm

Thanks for the head up, glorydave! It's very interesting topic. Very Happy

miyu wrote:
Yah, I know some people say Dai-chan's lutz is flutz. But I believe it's OK even though the angle of the blade isn't so deep. I hope he won't get any '!' in the coming season. Neutral Neutral

I agree with you, miyu. I think it doesn't matter Daisuke's 3Lz is a flutz. The most important thing is what he's gonna jump all clean in SP and FS. Cool I believe he can do it!! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: New scores for season 2008/2009   Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:11 am

Thank you for the links, glorydave! Very Happy


I'm not an expert of jumps at all, so I have rarely thought Daisuke's lutz was flutz. Sometimes, especially when he is tired at FS, his lutz seemed flat
at the very last moment, but I never felt it was flutz.
In the video "eye" at DOI, his lutz was perfectly corrected, IMO.
I think he has been working on jumps with all his might over the past 2years, and is in the process of bearing fruit. Hope to see him jump more beautifully
and perfectlly this season.

And it's happy to hear spins are reduced to 3!!
He talks himself never liked spins, and now, he doesn't have to use his valuable energy for 1 more spins. This leads him to do more elaborate transitions
and put remaining power for the consistency of jumps Wink
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PostSubject: Re: New scores for season 2008/2009   Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:43 am

Miyu, you did an interesting analysis! Very Happy

I agree with you about Step Sequences... Maybe sometimes the commitment of whole body is not enough (for judges)... but when I watch his CiSt in "eye" I believe he can get a great GOE! cheers

About jumps, it's more difficult to say... Maybe Daisuke hasn't difficult or creative entries, but a lot of his jumps are unexpected... there's no preparation... Wink
At the same time, watching "eye", I think that his jumps are gorgeous, but maybe ha can add something more, for example regarding steps before 3Lz... but maybe the choreography is not finished yet and he has to work on it...
(sorry for my english, I know my phrases are not really correct, but I hope you can understand...)

Uhm... I've never thought Daisuke has some problems with his Lutz... scratch

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PostSubject: Re: New scores for season 2008/2009   Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:23 am

I've checked the protocol. The lutz I was talking about, the one, Tarasova describes as having a 'tiny change of edge' in the Russian broadcast, got a +1.20 GOE:

http://www.isufs.org/results/gpusa07/sa07_Men_SP_Scores.pdf

Just as much as Daisuke's triple axel there.

The Japanese broadcast of the same event was interesting too. You see Morozov smiling in the kiss & cry, he looks so happy and satisfied with the marks, but, as he's leaving K&C together with Daisuke and Utako, he approaches a woman (a Japan skating federation representative?) and asks her 'Who is the tech specialist?'

I guess, Nikolai wasn't happy after all, as he'd expected a higher score. I bet he was mad about Daisuke's straight line steps getting only level 1.

As for myself, I don't get judge # 6' PCS. Did he/ she actually see the program? Rolling Eyes
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